I have some thoughts; I'll try to avoid a wall of text:
Overall, this game is great. The artwork and CGs? Amazing. Some of the writing? Stellar.
But note I said 'some' of the writing. For some characters/situations, you managed to capture the feel (or I prefer to say, the 'vibe') of Helltaker very well; but for other characters and situations, I think the vibes fall flat.
Which did you do well at? Malina was perfect, Cerberus was great, I loved the direction you took Justice, Zdrada was great, Azazel was good, Lucifer was good, and Pandemonica made sense.
As for characters that I believe you did not fully capture the right feel or tone in this game:
1. The Helltaker himself: His portrayal in this game seems to fall on a lot of typical Japanese dating sim tropes. To take one example: when Modeus - a demon girl he explicitly went to Hell to bring for his harem - undresses CONSENSUALLY before him, why on earth would he avert his eyes? He's a grizzled dude who looks like if Johnny Bravo joined the yakuza, who walked into Hell to get a crew of sharply-dressed demon girls to fill his house with (both sexy and absurd) shenanigans - he's not an shy anime protagonist embarrassed by the lewdity around him.
2. Modeus: Modeus is a demon of lust. She straight-up (as shown in the comics) watches metric tons of pornography and seeks to reenact those scenes with randos at the gym/pizza delivery people/etc. Why on earth is she being bashful at being taken out on a date by the Helltaker? (Remember that she approaches 'romance' as a strange mega kink - she should be afflicted with The Big Horny).
3. Judgement: Judgment is experienced and wily. She may be bombastic and theatrical, but that's part of her role as High Prosecutor. She's not some borderline-tsundere who thinks a caterpillar is a deadly intruder; remember that in the comics she's one of the mature ones (along with Lucifer) who keeps the other demon girls in line and maintains order.
Sorry if my comments came off harshly; I do really appreciate the game you've put out and the effort put into it, and many of the writing choices. I just believe that it could be improved if the above comments are borne in mind.
great game so far would love to see more. hopefully, everything with your guy's patreon gets sorted out if it hasn't already would love to support the game more
This game is incredible. It's hard to think that this is fanmade and isn't official content. You've outdone yourselves already, and I'm excited to see where you go from here.
Currently there are no current plans for a spanish localisation/translation, however the devs have expressed interest in localisations for Spanish alongside Russian and others.
Currently there is no definite date of release, however the devs have hinted on their planned roadmap that most likely we will see a release of the full game sometime towards the end of 2021.
This is actually so cool! Scratch the small itch I didn't know I had to see more of the characters from Helltaker. I have played through the first date of Pandemonica, Modeus and a secret(?) characters date, and I really enjoyed it!
And I do appreciate it's not over the top, just the normal everyday date. The small interactions, gestures, expression is also really nicely written.
The art, If you didn't say it's fan game, I might just thought this is the originals sequel.
Can't wait to see more dates added, and I do wonder how far you will go with this lol
OK super tylko czy jest po polsku bo nigdy nic nie wiadomo bo jak kiedyś oglądałem u youtubera to miał po polsku a jak ja włączyłem u mnie to było po angielsku. Na szczęście znalazłem artykuł jak wstawić załącznik do gry by móc mieć grę po polsku i mi się udało. Więc takie pytanie mam czy jest od razu po polsku albo jest możliwość ustawienia języka polskiego.
You should really start a Patreon with this! I loved the demo and I don't know if this is going to be more intimate but if it does that's great too, it will attract a lot more people and probably artists giving you a helping hand!
Wherever you're gonna go with this as soon as there's a Patreon for this you can at least count me in with monthly financial support!
I have an question: Does the game run on an 32 bits gpu because i dont have an 64 bits gpu because i have some personal problems and i really want to play this game.Thanks!
P.S. Nice game,I love the drawing on it and the design of the game.
I've been having problems launching the game, when I launch it the icon shows up and I hear the music but that's it no menu nothing, I played it before and it worked just fine and I tried reinstalling it but it still didn't work, any ideas?
Great! I currently try to run it on Ubuntu 20.04 with Wine, but it would definitely be a blast to have full-on support. Keep up the good work, we believe in you.
Edit: worked just fine with Wine64.
Edit 2: completed the demo and am really looking towards new developments!
God, this game is amazing, it's like the helltaker 2 I've always wanted. Thank you VERY much for creating such a great game, and congratulations, i can't wait for the full version.
PS: I don't have money right now but hopefully i'll get some soon to support your work (The CGs are excelent btw).
Love the spritework and CGs I've seen from this game, is there any chance you'll be releasing a sprite pack? Even if it cost a few dollars I'd be really interested in getting a copy.
Whenever I would load up the game it would constantly crash. I also tried on my 2nd pc but it would still crash. Even tho I could not get the game to work, IF you are looking through the comments to see if the game is good, from what I have seen and heard the game is amazing. much love to the creator/creators (Also keep up the good work) If I ever get the game to work i will make another post.
I loved the first game and had many of my friends play it, we all enjoyed it and I will 100% recommend this game to them. The conversations were fluid and felt real, the artwork was excellent and beautiful. I can't wait for the full version of this fan game because it's honestly beautiful.
I see this game flourishing and becoming a great one, hope the Łukasz Piskorz, AKA vanripper, notices this game and supports it, unlike a certain company that rhymes with Nintendo. Much love and great work Team 133.
PS: My top girls are: 1) Judgment 2) Lucyfer 3) Cerberus 4) Beelzebub 5) Justice
The final game will be free since the original was free as well. The game will most likely stay on Itch since VanRipper has publicly stated that he wants fangames to avoid big platforms like Steam.
I just finished the demo, and I've got to say that I love it so far. I like that the game expands on the character's personalities in a way that feels accurate. I can't wait to see what this game will look like in the future.
I don't know if anyone else has this, but the game doesn't save my progress. Every time I close the game, all the saves I had all disappear when I open it up again (I do always extract with WinRAR and open the game that way).
If you extract the game to a separate folder, the game should keep your saves just fine, no extra extracting required. Just make sure that all of the files are in that extracted folder and you should be good.
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¿pueden hacer una traducción al español? es que no se ingles y me gustaría jugarlo.
Una vez que el juego esté terminado, planeamos traducirlo.
Y nos puedes decir un tiempo predeterminado o algo parecido? Es que tengo muchas ganas de jugarlo pero no sé ingles
I have some thoughts; I'll try to avoid a wall of text:
Overall, this game is great. The artwork and CGs? Amazing. Some of the writing? Stellar.
But note I said 'some' of the writing. For some characters/situations, you managed to capture the feel (or I prefer to say, the 'vibe') of Helltaker very well; but for other characters and situations, I think the vibes fall flat.
Which did you do well at? Malina was perfect, Cerberus was great, I loved the direction you took Justice, Zdrada was great, Azazel was good, Lucifer was good, and Pandemonica made sense.
As for characters that I believe you did not fully capture the right feel or tone in this game:
1. The Helltaker himself: His portrayal in this game seems to fall on a lot of typical Japanese dating sim tropes. To take one example: when Modeus - a demon girl he explicitly went to Hell to bring for his harem - undresses CONSENSUALLY before him, why on earth would he avert his eyes? He's a grizzled dude who looks like if Johnny Bravo joined the yakuza, who walked into Hell to get a crew of sharply-dressed demon girls to fill his house with (both sexy and absurd) shenanigans - he's not an shy anime protagonist embarrassed by the lewdity around him.
2. Modeus: Modeus is a demon of lust. She straight-up (as shown in the comics) watches metric tons of pornography and seeks to reenact those scenes with randos at the gym/pizza delivery people/etc. Why on earth is she being bashful at being taken out on a date by the Helltaker? (Remember that she approaches 'romance' as a strange mega kink - she should be afflicted with The Big Horny).
3. Judgement: Judgment is experienced and wily. She may be bombastic and theatrical, but that's part of her role as High Prosecutor. She's not some borderline-tsundere who thinks a caterpillar is a deadly intruder; remember that in the comics she's one of the mature ones (along with Lucifer) who keeps the other demon girls in line and maintains order.
Sorry if my comments came off harshly; I do really appreciate the game you've put out and the effort put into it, and many of the writing choices. I just believe that it could be improved if the above comments are borne in mind.
Thanks for reading my wall of text!
Thanks for the feedback. Our writers appreciate knowing what they could improve on and do better. :)
well in the artwork of the creator judgement says that she was the nicest demon of them all tho
great game so far would love to see more. hopefully, everything with your guy's patreon gets sorted out if it hasn't already would love to support the game more
You can always donate to us here or on paypal if you like. It helps out a lot. :)
This game is incredible. It's hard to think that this is fanmade and isn't official content. You've outdone yourselves already, and I'm excited to see where you go from here.
The game is incredible, I want to see what the final version will be like.
Would there be any problem in making a translation into Spanish?
Currently there are no current plans for a spanish localisation/translation, however the devs have expressed interest in localisations for Spanish alongside Russian and others.
When exactly is the full game gonna be released
Currently there is no definite date of release, however the devs have hinted on their planned roadmap that most likely we will see a release of the full game sometime towards the end of 2021.
this is amazing oh my god, can't wait for the full release
This is actually so cool! Scratch the small itch I didn't know I had to see more of the characters from Helltaker. I have played through the first date of Pandemonica, Modeus and a secret(?) characters date, and I really enjoyed it!
And I do appreciate it's not over the top, just the normal everyday date. The small interactions, gestures, expression is also really nicely written.
The art, If you didn't say it's fan game, I might just thought this is the originals sequel.
Can't wait to see more dates added, and I do wonder how far you will go with this lol
OK super tylko czy jest po polsku bo nigdy nic nie wiadomo bo jak kiedyś oglądałem u youtubera to miał po polsku a jak ja włączyłem u mnie to było po angielsku. Na szczęście znalazłem artykuł jak wstawić załącznik do gry by móc mieć grę po polsku i mi się udało. Więc takie pytanie mam czy jest od razu po polsku albo jest możliwość ustawienia języka polskiego.
Will you make a port for ios and android
The original creator explicitly said to keep the game off of the App Store and Google Play, so it's not likely.
You should really start a Patreon with this! I loved the demo and I don't know if this is going to be more intimate but if it does that's great too, it will attract a lot more people and probably artists giving you a helping hand!
Wherever you're gonna go with this as soon as there's a Patreon for this you can at least count me in with monthly financial support!
We actually had a Patreon for a short time, but due to unfortunate circumstances and reasons Patreon won't tell us, it got removed.
Wow, that's kinda surprising I've rarely heard bad things about patreon, have you tried starting another?
Or are you just worried it's gonna get taken down again?
Basically, now the email is blacklisted from Patreon We can't sign up again using the email even if we tried.
Pretty annoying and they won't help you recovering it?
If it were translated into Spanish, many more people would buy it! I'm sure
Can't wait to see the full game
Loved the demo just wondering When will the full game be released?
We're not exactly sure on an exact date, but most likely in the later half of the year.
hello Team 133,
I have an question: Does the game run on an 32 bits gpu because i dont have an 64 bits gpu because i have some personal problems and i really want to play this game.Thanks!
P.S. Nice game,I love the drawing on it and the design of the game.
A lot of effort and hours of work.Good job =)
Sadly, the game does not run on a 32-bit platform anymore. That feature was removed from the engine we used to make the game in early 2018.
ok, thank you.
I've been having problems launching the game, when I launch it the icon shows up and I hear the music but that's it no menu nothing, I played it before and it worked just fine and I tried reinstalling it but it still didn't work, any ideas?
If it worked for you before, but now it doesn't... Did you... move the file location since the last time you opened it?
nope left it as was
If the demo sucked me into the story like this imagine the full game, can't wait. :)
Hmm i'm thinking how to unlock that last CG for the gallery... maybe have to do it in a different order...
Not exactly. There's one character still waiting for you to find her.
Will there be any Linux support?
Potentially. I'd have to test out a few things with the newest build, but it's a definite maybe.
Great! I currently try to run it on Ubuntu 20.04 with Wine, but it would definitely be a blast to have full-on support. Keep up the good work, we believe in you.
Edit: worked just fine with Wine64.
Edit 2: completed the demo and am really looking towards new developments!
there will be a version for android?
No. We most likely will not make an android version due to the ooriginal creator's wishes.
is this the finished game?
No. This is a demo.
sick i look forward to a full release!!
se hará una traducción al español o ya hay una existente?
sadly i need a zip xd
would be dope if it was on steam or something
What engine is the game running on? I am asking because I want to add a Polish language version. Or where are the dialogues?
Game is running in the TyranoBuilder game engine.
i cant download it help
everytime that i try to,it only downloads 12% and then it says download prohibited
anyone knows how to fix it?
The same happened to me, and i just downloaded it again 7 times or so until it worked. I did it in front of my wifi though, i think it helped
guys did you not read the developmet log "To Any of You That Need Help Installing the Game on Macs" and "To Any of You That Need Help Installing the Game on Windows"
Touche
God, this game is amazing, it's like the helltaker 2 I've always wanted. Thank you VERY much for creating such a great game, and congratulations, i can't wait for the full version.
PS: I don't have money right now but hopefully i'll get some soon to support your work (The CGs are excelent btw).
Love the spritework and CGs I've seen from this game, is there any chance you'll be releasing a sprite pack? Even if it cost a few dollars I'd be really interested in getting a copy.
- Sincerely,
a fan
We're definitely considering it. Once all the sprites are drawn and we get closer to a final game, we'll see.
Whenever I would load up the game it would constantly crash. I also tried on my 2nd pc but it would still crash. Even tho I could not get the game to work, IF you are looking through the comments to see if the game is good, from what I have seen and heard the game is amazing. much love to the creator/creators (Also keep up the good work) If I ever get the game to work i will make another post.
- sincerely
random dude on the internet
I loved the first game and had many of my friends play it, we all enjoyed it and I will 100% recommend this game to them. The conversations were fluid and felt real, the artwork was excellent and beautiful. I can't wait for the full version of this fan game because it's honestly beautiful.
I see this game flourishing and becoming a great one, hope the Łukasz Piskorz, AKA vanripper, notices this game and supports it, unlike a certain company that rhymes with Nintendo. Much love and great work Team 133.
PS: My top girls are: 1) Judgment 2) Lucyfer 3) Cerberus 4) Beelzebub 5) Justice
Will this game have NSFW scenes in later dates, or just SFW wholesome stuff
There will be some NSFW content in the final game, but not the demos. You can also toggle the NSFW on or off if you so desire.
Have you guys also figured out a price range, if there is one at all? Plus, is this staying on itch or will it go to Steam at some point?
The final game will be free since the original was free as well. The game will most likely stay on Itch since VanRipper has publicly stated that he wants fangames to avoid big platforms like Steam.
I just finished the demo, and I've got to say that I love it so far. I like that the game expands on the character's personalities in a way that feels accurate. I can't wait to see what this game will look like in the future.
I don't know if anyone else has this, but the game doesn't save my progress. Every time I close the game, all the saves I had all disappear when I open it up again (I do always extract with WinRAR and open the game that way).
If you extract the game to a separate folder, the game should keep your saves just fine, no extra extracting required. Just make sure that all of the files are in that extracted folder and you should be good.
Thank you so much!
Are you guys thinking to launch this game to Android plataform too?
Not at the moment, unfortunately.
You have to take the file out of the ZIP folder and then launch it
https://helldev103120.itch.io/the-second-circle/devlog/209730/to-any-of-you-that...
help I'm running on win 8 64 bit and it won't open
Did you extract the folder from the zip?
It was never a zip for me just a file
That's interesting. It should be a zip file after downloading.
Weird do you have any idea why
I do not unfortunately. Do the downloads show up for you as zip files?
On mac it say need admin provilege, but even if i have them i can t open it
Did you extract the zip?
https://helldev103120.itch.io/the-second-circle/devlog/209730/to-any-of-you-that...
Having problems downloading the Mac version any tips on how to make it work?
You extracted the ZIP and it still gave you that error?
https://helldev103120.itch.io/the-second-circle/devlog/209730/to-any-of-you-that...
Love it! I would totally love for the full version to have a toggle for a simple font for the settings menus though